Monday, November 16, 2009

What do you think about the Jesus story having similarities to Horus of Egyptian mythology?

1. Both were conceived of a virgin.





2. Both were the "only begotten son" of a god (either Osiris or Yahweh)





3. Horus's mother was Meri, Jesus's mother was Mary.





4. Horus's foster father was called Jo-Seph, and Jesus's foster father was Joseph.





5. Both foster fathers were of royal descent.





6. Both were born in a cave (although sometimes Jesus is said to have been born in a stable).





7. Both had their coming announced to their mother by an angel.





8. Horus; birth was heralded by the star Sirius (the morning star). Jesus had his birth heralded by a star in the East (the sun rises in the East).





9. Ancient Egyptians celebrated the birth of Horus on December 21 (the Winter Solstice). Modern Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus on December 25.





10. Both births were announced by angels (this si nto the same as number 7).





11. Both had shepherds witnessing the birth.





12. Horus was visited at birth by "three solar deities" and Jesus was visited by "three wise men".





13. After the birth of Horus, Herut tried to have Horus murdered. After the birth of Jesus, Herod tried to have Jesus murdered.





14. To hide from Herut, the god That tells Isis, "Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child." To hide from Herod, an angel tells Joseph to "arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt."





15. When Horus came of age, he had a special ritual where hsi eye was restored. When Jesus (and other Jews) come of age, they have a special ritual called a Bar Mitzvah.





16. Both Horus and Jesus were 12 at this coming-of-age ritual.





17. Neither have any official recorded life histories between the ages of 12 and 30.





18. Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus. Jesus was baptized in the river Jordan.





19. Both were baptized at age 30.





20. Horus was baptized by Anup the Baptizer. Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.





21. Both Anup and John were later beheaded.





22. Horus was taken from the desert of Amenta up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-rival Set. Jesus was taken from the desert in Palestine up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-rival Satan.





23. Both Horus and Jesus successfully resist this temptation.





24. Both have 12 disciples.





25. Both walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, and restored sight to the blind.





26. Horus "stilled the sea by his power." Jesus commanded the sea to be still by saying, "Peace, be still."





27. Horus raised his dead father (Osiris) from the grave. Jesus raised Lazarus from the grave. (Note the similarity in names when you say them out loud. Further, Osiris was also known as Asar, which is El-Asar in Hebrew, which is El-Asarus in Latin.)





28. Osiris was raised in the town of Anu. Lazarus was raised in Bethanu (literally, "house of Anu").





29. Both gods delivered a Sermon on the Mount.





30. Both were crucified.





31. Both were crucified next to two thieves.





32. Both were buried in a tomb.





33. Horus was sent to Hell and resurrected in 3 days. Jesus was sent to Hell and came back "three days" later (although Friday night to Sunday morning is hardly three days).





34. Both had their resurrection announced by women.





35. Both are supposed to return for a 1000-year reign.





36. Horus is known as KRST, the anointed one. Jesus was known as the Christ (which means "anointed one").





37. Both Jesus and Horus have been called the good shepherd, the lamb of God, the bread of life, the son of man, the Word, the fisher, and the winnower.





38. Both are associated with the zodiac sign of Pisces (the fish).





39. Both are associated with the symbols of the fish, the beetle, the vine, and the shepherd's crook.





40. Horus was born in Anu ("the place of bread") and Jesus was born in Bethlehem ("the house of bread").





41. "The infant Horus was carried out of Egypt to escape the wrath of Typhon. The infant Jesus was carried into Egypt to escape the wrath of Herod. Concerning the infant Jesus, the New Testament states the following prophecy: 'Out of Egypt have I called my son.'" (See Point 13)





42. Both were transfigured on the mount.





43. The catacombs of Rome have pictures of the infant Horus being held by his mother, not unlike the modern-day images of "Madonna and Child."





44. Noted English author C. W. King says that both Isis and Mary are called "Immaculate".





45. Horus says: "Osiris, I am your son, come to glorify your soul, and to give you even more power." And Jesus says: "Now is the Son of Man glorified and God is glorified in him. If God is glorified in him, God will glorify the Son in himself, and will glorify him at once."





46. Horus was identified with the Tau (cross).

What do you think about the Jesus story having similarities to Horus of Egyptian mythology?
Christianity has been changed to the convienience of the people in power of it during the years, maybe it simmilarities were made because someone wanted to eliminate the egyptian beliefs and put the image of his god over the image of horus. Maybe it is a coincidence or more. maybe is a cultural mixture
Reply:Both are stories that the human mind has conceived in order to describe what they believe about ultimate reality. Since both Egyptians and Christians were living in the same ultimate reality, they conceived of it in similar ways.
Reply:I'm not clear what your sources of information are, but I'm afraid you may be operating under some misapprehension.





The mother of Horus was Isis, who, after the murer of Osiris, collected the pieces of his body and through her magic became pregnant with the son of Osiris - Horus. This might be interpreted as "virgin" birth, but virginity was never explicity associated with Isis in ancient Egypt.





Horus was born in a papyrus thicket in the Delta called Akh-bity which translates as "Papyrus thicket of the King of Lower Egypt"





I am unaware of any tradition of Horus having died. He did battle with his uncle, the god Set to avenge his father's murder. In that battle, Set damaged his eyes, but they were repaired - thus their significance in Egyptian iconography.





I am also unaware of any tradition of Horus having been baptized or of a specific point at which he "came of age."





The images of Isis and the infant Horus are not surprising, as Isis became an immensely popular goddess throughout the western world in antiquity, especially in her aspect as a mother goddess.
Reply:What is my opinion? Here it is...there is an opposing spirit that will do back flips through rings of fire, to keep you from the truth. He seems to have succeeded with you.
Reply:The similarities are too many and to identical to believe is just coincidences. But cristianity isn't the only religion that copies from an older one.
Reply:Good luck with any fundamentalist really addressing what you've pointed out here. If they'd research a bit more on their own they'd discover much much more. There are no coincidences. Folklore, and mythology have always been adopted, and modified to fit into religious doctrine throughout the world.
Reply:There are many similarities with Mithras but I never knew about the similarities w/Horus. Horus' mother is Isis and his father is Osiris. Virgin used to mean a woman of her own means (had her own property, money, etc that she answered to no man) and was changed to mean hadn't had sexual intercourse.

cassell

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