Saturday, November 14, 2009

Archbishop of Canterbury admits Bible full of ...... Did you hear about it?

There was scant evidence for the Magi, and none at all that there were three of them, or that they were kings, he said. All the evidence that existed was in Matthew’s Gospel. The Archbishop said: "Matthew’s Gospel doesn’t tell us there were three of them, doesn’t tell us they were kings, doesn’t tell us where they came from. It says they are astrologers, wise men, priests from somewhere outside the Roman Empire, that’s all we’re really told." Anything else was legend. "It works quite well as legend," the Archbishop said.





Further, there was no evidence that there were any oxen or asses in the stable. The chances of any snow falling around the stable in Bethlehem were "very unlikely." And as for the star rising and then standing still: the Archbishop pointed out that stars just don’t behave like that.

Archbishop of Canterbury admits Bible full of ...... Did you hear about it?
Well... he's making more sense than most...
Reply:It'd be more impressive if the Anglican church really had any relevancy in today's world.
Reply:The Telegraph egregiously misquotes the Archbishop...





The story opens with "The Archbishop of Canterbury said yesterday that the Christmas story of the Three Wise Men was nothing but a 'legend'. Dr Rowan Williams has claimed there was little evidence that the Magi even existed and there was certainly nothing to prove there were three of them or that they were kings." And then it even has this somewhat damning quote: "Matthew's gospel says they are astrologers, wise men, priests from somewhere outside the Roman Empire, that's all we're really told. It works quite well as legend."





Seems pretty bad, huh? So I check the transcript. The quote is *actually*: "Well Matthew's gospel doesn't tell us that there were three of them, doesn't tell us they were kings, doesn't tell us where they came from, it says they're astrologers, wise men, priests from somewhere outside the Roman Empire. That's all we're really told so, yes, 'the three kings with the one from Africa' - that's legend; it works quite well as legend."





OK, so the Archbishop of Canterbury gives an interview in which he's talking about what actually happened there. OK. And really, most of what he said seemed pretty accurate. A little wishy-washy, but throughout the interview he never denies the facts of the gospels, and indeed, he cites the gospels as reliable. And at one point he's talking about the "three kings" bit -- something which I think we all know is suspect. And he refers to that particular bit as legend.








And then the Telegraph flat-out omits the part where he says *what* he says is legend, without even so much as an ellipsis to disclose the fact that it's doing a misleading mash-up of out-of-context quotes. (Specifically the "so, yes, 'the three kings with the one from Africa' - that's legend;") As if that's not enough, a headline is fabricated that substitutes the entire nativity for what's being called a legend...





The Telegraph is trash... it's amazing to me that anyone still reads it...
Reply:What part of what he said is wrong?





I think it is a faily sensible statement made by a highly educated man.
Reply:Everybody has an opinion. It just so happens his and mine differ. One day we will all know the truth. and then it won't matter anymore,who is right and wrong If I am right I will be in heaven ,If he is wrong that for God to judge not me.But since he doesn't believe I guess he not worried, As I have said, before a mind is a terrible thing to waste,and I choose not to fill my head with the archbishop rattlings, He just a person like you and I ,that just his opinion. if he is such a hater why in the world did he chose to a archbishop. see crap like this is what screws people head all up. well he not going to mess with mind, when I finished this I not even be able to tell you his name. Merry Christmas.
Reply:He wasn't saying the Bible is full of you know what. But he had honest questions about that story. He wanted to know the whole truth about the birth of Jesus. I'm not Anglican but I don't think we should criticize what Rowan Williams has said. I do care more about the fact that he said that America had lost it's moral ground after 9/11.
Reply:Ho-hum. Nothing new.

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