Tuesday, April 28, 2009

Is april 9th the birthdate of jesus? star of Bethlehem book?

i saw a tv show %26amp; there's a book too, the Star of Bethlehem, that say there was a total elipse (that the Wise Men) were following odd that we should be having XMas the day after Easter?

Is april 9th the birthdate of jesus? star of Bethlehem book?
The Birth of Jesus the Nazarite at Passover in 7 B.C..





In the year 7 B.C. there was a conjunction of Jupiter (the king of the planets) and Saturn (thought to be the protector of Israel) in the Constellation of Pisces (the Sign of the Messiah), as computed by Johannes Kepler, that was first visible at daybreak on the 12th of April. (Passover in 7 B.C. was on Monday April 13th which commenced at sundown on the 12th.)





King; Israel; Messiah. 12th April 7 B.C.





On the morning of the 29th of May it is believed the stars were visible for 2 hours and, on December 4th of 7 B.C. Jupiter and Saturn met in the Constellation of Pisces for the last time.





The A.D. system of dating is inaccurate: It is a system of dating which owes little to the birth of Christ and rather more to the imagination of a Scythian monk Dionysius Exiguus who was instructed in A.D. 533 to commence a new calendar working backwards from his day to the birth of Christ. As is to be expected, he was years adrift in his reckoning. We know roughly when Jesus was born from the New Testament narrative:





Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea, in the days of Herod the king. Matthew 2:1





It is a fact of history that Herod died in 4 B.C.





Between the birth of Jesus and the death of Herod there were several events which necessitate there being a period of years separating the two events. There was the 'slaughter of the innocents' which drove the Jesus family into Egypt. Herod dare not have mounted that until the census ordered by Caesar had been completed and such a census could not be completed in a few months. People had to travel far and wide to census points and the whole operation, including the necessary checks which would be undertaken, would take a long time. Thus the Bible narrative indicates that the birth of Jesus could not have been very much later than 7 B.C.





Also Herod had all of the children of two years of age and under murdered and he died in 4 B.C. so that means that the birth of Jesus was at least two years prior to Herod's death, i.e. 7-6 B.C.





Matthew 2:1 Now when Jesus had been born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men (druids) to the East to Jerusalem,


2:2 Saying, Where is he that has been BORN King of the Jews? for we saw his "Star" in the East, and are come to worship him.


2:3 When Herod the king had heard [these things], he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.


2:4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and lawyers of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.


2:5 And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,


2:6 And thou Bethlehem, [in] the land of Judah, art not the least among the princes of Judah: for out of thee shall come a Governor (of this prison planet), that shall rule My people Israel.


2:7 Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently [exactly] what time the "Star" had appeared.


2:8 And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found [him], bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also.


2:9 When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the "Star", which they had seen in the East, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.


2:10 When they saw the "Star", they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.


2:11 And when they were come into the HOUSE, they saw the young CHILD with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.


2:12 And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way.


2:13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child (not baby) to destroy him.


2:14 When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt:


2:15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called My son.


2:16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked by the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from TWO YEARS old and under, according to the time which he had diligently [and accurately] enquired of the wise men.


2:17 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the Prophet, saying,


2:18 In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping [for] her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not.


2:19 But when Herod was dead, behold, an angel of the Lord appeareth in a dream to Joseph in Egypt,





This Bible quote is taken from the "King of kings' Bible" available as an e-Book from:-





http://i.am/jah/kofkad.htm





To the wise men (Druids*) who studied astronomy and astrology this was a sign so powerful that they could not ignore it. Jupiter the 'Kingly star' and Saturn the 'Protector of Israel' in the constellation of the 'Sign of the Messiah'. Being Israelites and Levites in exile they would know from the Book of Micah in Holy Scripture that the place of the birth of the foretold Messiah-King would be Bethlehem, but because it took them two years before they could get to Judaea, from the British Isles, they would automatically seek for their King in the capital city of Jerusalem.





At 05.24 am, 12/4/7 BC. - Jupiter and Saturn in the Constellation of Pisces.





At 07.27 am, 12/4/7 BC. - Mercury; Venus and the Sun joined the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in the Constellation of Pisces, making it even more potent in its message. The King (Jupiter) Protector of Israel (Saturn), the Messiah (Pisces), the Messenger (Mercury) from Venus (Rev. 22:16 / Kk 30:16) and the Sun of Righteousness (Malachi 4:2).





After finding out from Herod that the Messiah-King was not in Jerusalem the Druids went to Bethlehem and there found the young child Jesus in his parents' house.





When the shepherds who were watching their flocks in the fields of Bethlehem, came to see Jesus during the night on which he was born, the word used in the account (Luke, chapter 2) defining Jesus is (brephos) a new-born babe, but when the Wise Men (Druids) from the West visited, he is then described as (paidion) a little lad or little child.





The Shepherds


In Luke 2: 8 we read, And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field keeping watch over their flocks by night. There is a saying of the Talmudists that the flocks were taken to the fields in March and brought back in November. This of course could only apply to the higher mountainous parts of Palestine. In many of the lower parts of the country the flocks were able to be in the fields all the year round. The little town of Bethlehem itself is situated about 2,550 feet above sea-level (an altitude much higher than that of any town in the whole of Great Britain), but some of the country round Bethlehem is considerably higher still. Whilst in Jericho, which is one of the lowest towns in the world and less than 30 miles away, the climate is almost tropical, yet up in Bethlehem there is usually frost and quite often snow in the Winter. One can realise therefore that the Bethlehem area was one of those districts where the sheep were brought in during the Winter, and if this be correct, then according to the time of the movement of the sheep stated by the Talmudists, Jesus would not be born in the Winter but sometime between March and November when the sheep were out in the fields at night.





From this information it can be concluded that the birth of Jesus was probably on, April 12th in 7 B.C. at Passover.





Some people believe the birth was in September, but whichever month it was, it was in 7 B.C. not the year zero or 1 A.D..





* http://i.am/jah//celtdrd.htm


jahtruth.co.uk
Reply:Christ was born in the Fall in 5 BC around the time of the Feast of Tabernacles. That's the reason there was no room at the "inn".
Reply:That would be "eclipse" and I haven't heard a specific date mentioned, but if such a person was born, it didn't occur on 25 Dec as has been celebrated for centuries. Last I'd heard/read it was thought to have occured in the Spring so 9April is as good a day as any other imo.





I don't do a lot of research on mythology...sorry
Reply:I think he was born in April...


but the most important thing to remember his not his birthday, but what he did for mankind =)


Here is a website that talks about maybe his birth though...
Reply:no one knows for sure..but we do know that it was not Dec 25..but it could have been in October...or late summer..hmmm who knows?
Reply:stop giving real birthdays to fictional characters
Reply:No.


Jesus died on Nisan 14 of the Jewish calender. This year the equivalent date is April 2.


He preached for 3 1/2 years.


He was 'about 30' when baptised.


Go back 33 1/2 years from about April/May and you get 'about' October...As the month of his birth.


Not December 25.


Christmas is a pagan celebration wrongfully imported into religion.
Reply:Jesus was born later this year and Christmas and Easter and pagan holidays


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